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74. DO AN ECONOMIC SIMULATION?

Date: Mon, 1 Apr 1996 15:03:25 -0500 (EST) R42.96
From: "Chris J. Reiss"
To: aab@teleport.com

Hello - saw your web page. Have you considered doing a simulation on your economic theory? If the underlying assumptions can be pinned down, it would be possible to do a massive-scale simulation which would help determine if the hypothesis is tenable.

REPLY

From: aab@teleport.com 45Reis.96
To: zod@beavis_nl.nl.nuwc.navy.mil

Ref: Mon, 1 Apr 1996 "simulation of economic theory" (Total work in life buying, pay by the act of distribution).

The question "economic simulation, basic assumptions?" provides still another viewpoint from which to write a brief discussion of what is suggested on the http://www.teleport.com/~aab home page about practical applications of resonation physics to replace force overpowering force, equalism reasoning based physics. The rest of the entries on the "Contents" page are other viewpoints. This will be added to the "Answers to questions" part of the Contents page.

"Simulation of an economic theory" in a frame of reference of computers used to study and produce data bases about everything conceivable and perhaps some things inconceivable (such as the conquering death suggestions on the above home page), implies computer program modeling of a simulated economic system.

First; "assumptions". What the "validity" is that it is suggested be tested, IS NOT primarily the validity of an economic system, but rather the validity of the suggestion by Resonation Physics that observing how nature functions throughout the universe produces a suggestion that "nature" or "the universe" is a problem solving device, with "problem" being defined as conditions going from a higher to a lower level of effectability. In human emotional language, "going from a higher to a lower level of effectability" is what a human would call "destruction", or "deterioration from something desirable to something undesirable", or "a roblem".

Thus "testing the validity" of "Resonation Physics" applied to human business procedure, (by modeling such as on a computer instead of actually doing it in real life), consists of evaluating or forming opinions about whether the revisions in human business procedure suggested by Resonation Physics would result in reducing or ending destruction encountered in various relationships in "equalism reasoning, force overpowering force" based human business procedure.

A list of "destructive conditions" solved appears at the start of the "contents" page, and also on the "Introduction" page of /~aab. Those destructive conditions solved by using the "underlying assumptions" in a human business procedure, it is suggested provides tentative verification of the validity of Resonation Physics applied to destruction encountered in human business transactions. Observing a problem of destruction ended is a tentative verification of a theory that says it shows how to end or avert destruction.

To be more specific about what is stated or implied in "destruction" encountered as a result of the way human business transactions are currently accomplished (equalism reasoning, equalism exchanging, -- violation of the fundamental postulates of Resonation Physics, "nature is a difference arranging procedure" (not an "equalism exchanging" or "categorizing" procedure), ---

--- "Debt" and especially "unpaid debt" such as one sees arguing about in the United States congress at this time, as well as most of the rest of the legislatures of nations of the earth, and at this particular date in history, the "standoff in Montana by a group of "free men" refusing to pay their debts, mortgages on their property, writing bad checks or bad money orders, etc. --- and in a more general sense anyone who "loses their home, farm, property" through inability to "pay their debts" or "financial (equalism reasoning based) obligations, are humans who feel from a human emotional point of view that they have been "destroyed" to some degree, (and often consequently endeavor to use destruction to solve the problem of what destroyed them, faulty reasoning from a Resonation Physics point of view).

Their place to live has been "destroyed" (taken away from them). They are nearer to or are approaching "destruction" through being "homeless" because they "lost their home or farm" through the "destruction" arising from "being unable to pay debts" in a equalism reasoning based economic system.

The above is of course the terminology of human emotions. A home" lost" by being unable to make its debt or mortgage payments is not "destroyed". It still exists as a home, but "owned" by someone else, presumably "taken back" by its debt issuer or mortgage lender.

The person or family that thereby becomes "homeless" is not "destroyed", they are still alive as human beings, (unless shot down and killed by someone trying to repossess their home for non payment of debts as in the recent FBI killings of various individuals). They are simply "homeless", which in human emotional terms is a degree of destruction.

Thus "simulating an economic theory" as you suggest, consists of going through a list of what whoever or which group is doing the "simulation" considers to be instances of "destruction" resulting from current human business procedure, and determining by discussion or debating if applying "total work in life buying, and, pay by the act of distribution" to the examples of "destruction they discuss would apparently be reduced or ended by applying Resonation Physics "assumptions" or "postulates" to the destruction under discussion.

It would also be possible to "simulate" or "model" such tests of validity (that destruction apparently is reduced or ended) by having a group of students in a college class in Economics (Resonation Physics reasoning based economics), make assumptions such as, each student assumes a different "total value put into life" as either goods or services, perhaps their perception of the total value put into life by their same sex parent.

Then an "assumption" is made that there are various different quantities of goods or services to distribute to the volunteers for the model.

The goods and services are then distributed by the idea: "larger total value put into life amount has prior choice for personal use or reward in life for putting value into life, of a reasonable amount of what is available of the availability of goods and services assumptions of the simulation

One of the principal results of such a test is to determine whether the volunteers in the test feel they can understand easier (than by equalism reasoning based business procedure), how they become able to receive out of the business system. For example, how can one receive if goods or services are available to be received by equalism reasoning, but one has no "equalism" to exchange for what one receives? (debt?, stealing? starve to death when plenty of food has been produced, go to war to steal it?). Then, how can one receive in Resonation Physics based business procedure? (pay by the act of distribution instead of having to "receive an equal in trade" in order to be "paid" for what is distributed).

All of the above may be seeming to evade or beg the question in current computer oriented classes implied by "simulation" whether by computer or individuals in a "simulation", which is that "simulation" using equalism reasoning based business procedure implies or has to do with how to solve what I call "the mathematical unworkability of equalism reasoning based business procedure".

The "mathematical unworkability" arises from the realities of "a basic assumption" that "equals must be traded" to accomplish economic distribution. This immediately brings up the "simulation" problem of "who or what will be in charge of determining where equals will be physically located in order to engage in "equalism exchanging" (central banking system, treasury, chancellor of the exchequer?). This in turns involves the assumptions involved in setting up a national or economic system "controller of minting or printing a medium of exchange", and how such a "medium of exchange is distributed to exactly the right places, groups, or individuals at exactly the right times to accomplish "distribution of the goods and services an economic system produces by "exchanging equal values", and what to do when the system breaks down because it is mathematically unworkable.

Such a procedure is "mathematically unworkable" because what something is "equal to" is such a constantly shifting amount by equalism reasoning business, and, when it is found in real life conditions that "something is available to be distributed" but "customers do not have what it is equal to" to exchange for it, the basic assumption of the system (of exchanging equals) breaks down, fails to work, and the basic assumption of the system has to be broken, evaded, ignored, and distribution accomplished by not exchanging equals, by devices such as "debt" (pretending an equal is being exchanged when it really is not), "free giveaways, charity" (violates the human emotional assumption that one should be rewarded by equalism receiving when something is distributed), stealing (no equals exchanged, something of value taken without giving an equal in exchange), etc, etc, through the long litany of violations of the basic assumption of "equal exchanging", --- because equalism reasoning based business procedure is MATHEMATICALLY UNWORKABLE in real life conditions.

Thus "economic simulation modeling" (by computer) to try to study such conditions as, what would be the effect of increasing the prime lending rate (debt issuing) by 1/2% percentage point? -- do not exist in the first pace in Resonation Physics based business procedure. The need to "study such a model" does not exist in the first place in Resonation Physics based business, because there is no "debt" as an attempt to do something about the mathematical unworkability of the system, (pretend one is exchanging an "equal" when one really is not, or will eventually fail to "exchange the equal" through debt default.

Resonation Physics is no more "mathematically unworkable" than anything else one can observe anywhere taking place in the universe. It is process of arranging quantities according to their magnitudes by whatever criteria it takes to accomplish the same as or a larger level of effectability (creation). Its "mathematics" are, everything must be included. Its mathematics are "violated" if somethng is treated as "0" if it can be measured (such as having "0" money to trade for something). Self contradiction. How can something be "0" if it can be measured?

A "mathematical mistake" (as distinguished from something that is mathematically unworkable), in resonation physics is measuring something's magnitude or size inaccurately (such as measuring the quantity of value a human has put into life as "0" because a person is broke and has no more money to spend after a life time of work).

It is suggested subject to verification testing, that nature signals that a "mistake has been made in its mathematical system" (something's magnitude for the purpose of graduated magnitudes difference arranging), by what human evaluate as "DESTRUCTION" (more precisely and quantitatively measurable as "decreasing level of effectability").

As for how "price is determined" in an "economic model simulation" using equalism reasoning business procedure, in which one "models" or "simulates", or "uses a basic assumption", that a certain quantity of medium of exchange is available in a specific market area, and that "prices" will be determined for equalism exchanging", by the quantity of what is available being divided into the amount of medium of exchange available to be exchanged for an item or service being studied (supply and demand of gasoline and change in gasoline prices, as an example), --- embarking on such a model simulation is a virtually endless, constantly changing, virtually infinite relationship, and virtually incomprehensible to most people. Realistically, one might wonder or speculate, isn't there some better or simpler, easier to understand and use way to do this that some inventor might think up?

Answer: yes. It is "total value put into life buying, pay by the act of distribution".

"Value" for the purpose of "adding to an individual's total value put into life position" is not determined in Resonation Physics based business procedure by dividing availability of a commodity into the quantity of a medium of exchange available to exchange for the commodity, (in real life or in a computer model), but instead by the procedure started around the year 1900 of "debating and determining by voting" what is the value of a good or service, and incorporating the results of such "determining value by debate and voting" into "contracts" (such as labor union contracts, and rates and fees schedules in various professions), stating what the value is that is put into life for various kinds of labor or materials that are put into producing something according to the specifications of the "contract".

One thus eliminates the whole process in Resonation Physics based business procedure of trying to "model" or "simulate" either in computer programs or in real life, what the effects will be of having various amounts of "medium of exchange to exchange" in various places in an economic system, (and consequent changes in "prices" or "credit availability), and when the system breaks down, where to pretend that "equalism to exchange" exists when it really does not, by devices such as "credit, debt either personal or national, price controls, minimum wages, who qualifies for welfare or free hand outs (such as those humans who are not actually doing any work or putting any value into life because they spend a portion of their time that otherwise could or should be used doing "actual work in life", -- what they do instead of "work" is bearing and rearing children; that "non work in life" by equalism reasoning ideas of being a mother).

It is interesting to observe the position relegated to "female humans bearing and rearing children" in "economic theory modeling" using the "underlying assumptions" of "force overpowering force, equalism reasoning based physics", compared to the identical condition in an economic model or simulation using the "underlying assumptions" or Resonation Physics, (everything measurable has to be included in a difference arrangement. Leaving some measurable condition out, (such as female humans rearing children, because they have "no equalism to trade for what she and her children receive out of life), is a "difference arranging violation" according to the ideas of Resonation Physics.

An "underlying assumption" of a Resonation Physics business procedure is that some mechanism is available to "determine accurately and in a procedurally protected way from human lying or bearing false witness, what is the "total value put into life" by an individual, with such an amount determined in a reasonable length of time. A "reasonable length of time" is defined as the time it takes by current business customs and procedures to "sell something to someone" such as by checking out groceries obtained in a grocery store (by a mother bearing and rearing children as an example).

Or in other words, it is "not reasonable" to have to take several hours, days, weeks, or months to determine if a customer can receive what one wants from a vendor. Reasonable is on the order of a few seconds or few minutes.

Thus "how long does it take to determine the total value a customer for an item or service has put into life?" is a "basic assumption" in Resonation Physics based business procedure.

Within the last few months as of the beginning of the year 1996, the answer to that question by devices such as the World Wide Web, electronic networking all over the earth by phone lines and wireless satellite communication, and now increasingly by pocket size and wrist watch size computers, has become -- the length of time it takes to slide a plastic card down a slot, or point an electronic communicator at an infrared scanner in a checkout line in a grocery store or any other place of business that "takes credit cards".

The technology NOW IN PLACE for such "reasonable length of time date base accessing", is the same that enables a hiker or explorer in the midst of a tropical rain forest or wilderness, to ask "where am I?" and get an almost instant computer screen read out of one's Latitude and Longitude anywhere on the earth.

The "simulation of economic theory" you suggest can be individuals particularly in economics classes, and classes in philosophy in schools and colleges to start discussing and "testing" or "modeling" in their discussion groups what is described at http://www.teleport.com/~aab.

In addition to alive in person classroom discussion, there now are "news groups" or "chat groups" on school and college campuses using computers, (see list of "news groups" available on Internet or the World Wide Web about news groups on college campuses, a partial list is on the Contents page as "News Groups asked for comments").

So far in over 18 months on Internet little or no success has been accomplished in even getting individuals to acknowledge they have read anything interesting on the /~aab home page, to say nothing of "model" or "discuss simulations" of what it would be like to use a Resonation Physics based human business procedure, instead of an equalism reasoning based business procedure.

Part of the problem so far has been the virtual lack of knowledge by anyone anywhere including and especially the access providers to Internet and the www, and the writers of programs to access various features supposedly available in the Internet, of how to contact and post inquiries requesting responses to the various news groups and chat groups on the Internet supposedly accessible by various "browsers" such as Netscape, NCSA Mosaic, Quarterdeck Mosaic and several others.

The features to accomplish such access and posting requesting replies seem to be incorporated into such Internet browsers, but in trying to use them one gets only an endless succession of error messages that no one so far seems to know how to correct or do anything about, either the program producer or users of the program.

Apparently the Internet is only usable in real life to type in a "URL" or "Location", and sometimes without error messages be connected to the typed in home page, But when one tries to down load various files, or respond to "response boxes on screen", more error messages no one knows anything about how to correct, or a download simply stopping uncompleted after a few minutes, and no one knows anything about why or how to correct such a failure to complete a download.

Needless to say seldom is a response received to any inquiry sent by email asking if anyone knows what to do about the problems of how to access news groups, post requests for replies, or why their information boxes give error messages instead of accept the information supposedly requested. Phone numbers called simply produce recorded messages that answer nothing.

The suggestion that emerges from this condition is that apparently a substantial number and perhaps most of the individuals so far trying to use Internet communication experience the same problems.

7 or 8 indications that someone read something on the /~aab home page in 18 months on Internet, could be an indication that only 7 or 8 people in 18 months managed to plow their way through an endless succession of error messages and "cannot establish contact, etc. etc." That seems to be life and communication so far on the www.

This of course casts serious reliability suspicions on the "almost instantaneous" (reasonable length of time) communication required to use a "total value put into life, pay by the act of distribution" business system. It may not quite be a practical reality yet (due to endless error messages that no one is sufficiently computer literate so far to know how to correct). But that condition will probably improve as younger "homo-net" humans become older and become adults in human civilization.

I am currently waiting (April 5, 1996, it is 4 to 6 PM only on the first Friday of each month) for the 2 hours each month set aside by the Internet provider I use (teleport.com in Portland, Oregon, if you ask a question the wrong way, wait 4 weeks to be able to ask it a different way to get a usable answer), where one can ask actual alive human beings face to face, questions about what if anything can be done about endless error messages on it seems any kind of access to anything on the Internet, instead of dialing a multitude of phone numbers for "technical support", and getting nothing but recorded messages about which button to push on one's telephone, that end up nowhere with anyone who can answer specific questions about what to do about error messages in their computer program or service, or "press 1 and we will get back to you as soon as we can", which turns out to be no reply no matter how long one waits, -- or simply --- buzzzzz dial tone, phone hung up.

Colleges will not allow face to face association with actual alive humans if one wishes to describe or ask for responses to new ways to solve human problems that do not use the the ideas taught at the college, (such as resonation physics instead of force overpowering force physics, and thus are labled "politically incorrect" or "academically incorrect"). Imagine suggesting people are different from eachother on an "equality" or "equalism reasoning based" college environment.

Ah well, such are the problems of "economic theory simulation modeling" or getting any kind of responses from anyone about an economic theory as of April 1996 (and since the middle 1940's when I first started trying to get a college anywhere to show an interest in letting me develop the "mathematics of nature" idea and its potential practical applications.

Such a situation may improve in the years to come. Colleges may eventually allow the question to be asked "does nature do its mathematics based on the same assumptions as current human mathematics?", --- and test or experimental conclusions drawn from such a question that can lead to a suggestion such as "to end or avert destruction in human business systems, using the procedure nature apparently uses to engage in the processes of creation throughout the rest of the universe, one could test the suggestion `total value put into life buying, pay by the act of distribution' to see if in human business relationships, evidence of the same phenomenon can be detected observable throughout the rest of nature, namely destruction reduced or ended, by a process of creation (ability to effect and be effected by a larger number of conditions).

Granted such a suggestion seems to violate "the second law of thermodynamics" (everything in the universe is running down and getting more and more disorderly).

Maybe we are using the wrong kind of mathematics to arrive at a conclusion that everything is running down and getting more and more disorderly. To me by my strange unacceptable way of reasoning (by currently accepted academic requirements), it seems to me that a human being as an example, is a "higher state or order or arrangement" than the basic chemical elements out of which a human being is composed, (can effect and be effected by a larger number of differences than the chemical elements separated, not combined into a living human being).

It is of course unacceptable on college campuses if one wishes to be certified as literate by current ideas in human education, to go beyond simply 150 pounds or so of something labeled in a scientific laboratory as "a specimen of an alive human being", and examine its properties with a little more perception than how much it registers on a weight scales, and get into something such as "what is the process its brain uses to compare itself to other humans in terms of "status position" or "larger or smaller for the purpose of difference arranging", (especially if it a female specimen who has born children, or politicians deciding to use destruction to solve problems), and to what extent do such comparisons become involved in the relationships between groups of humans that engage in riots, or on a level of nations in wars?

Such questions are not allowed. Proposed answers are not allowed, or are too uninteresting to warrant a reply or a hearing. Test verification: virtually no response to the /~aab home page in over 18 months.

Thank you for being one of the 8 responses. Is there a possibility you might mention the idea "total work put into life buying, pay by the act of distribution" to some people you know and ask them what they think of the idea, and maybe have them send their opinion to aab@teleport.com ? -- or maybe you could mention in an email message what they said.

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